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Full skirt or full ballgown

French translation: Robe de bal avec une jupe bouffante

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English term or phrase:Full skirt or full ballgown
French translation:Robe de bal avec une jupe bouffante
Entered by: cloutier

21:36 Dec 11, 2005
English to French translations [PRO]
Textiles / Clothing / Fashion / Wedding gowns
English term or phrase: Full skirt or full ballgown
Le terme "full" me pose un problème.

Pourrait-on dire "jupe bouffante" ou "robe de bal bouffante"? Il ne s'agit pas de la longueur mais plutôt de l'ampleur, la largeur....
cloutier
Local time: 06:33
Robe de bal avec une jupe bouffante
Explanation:
Robe du soir en taffetas à la jupe bouffante
http://www.rdl.com.lb/2004/q2/3949/mod.html

Le retour de l'opulence se présente dans de longues robes de bal qui rappellent l'époque où les tenues de soirée étaient chaque jour de mise. Selon Mme Helegda, c'est **la jupe bouffante** à la cheville portée avec un haut ajusté qui l'emporte en ce moment.»
The return to opulence is seen in floor-length ball gowns that reminisce of a time when eveningwear was the order of the day. According to Ms. Helegda, the style of the moment is a fitted top with a **full billowy skirt** that brushes the floor.
http://www.sears.ca/press.nsf/dd6e0cddc9dff95685256587007d9c...

Soudain, une jupe bouffante Chanel l'appelle : la découpe d'un volant rose ne semble pas suivre le tracé prévu. En fait, pas de problème...
http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=271295

En 1947, à Paris, Christian Dior révolutionne la mode en créant le new-look, un style ultraféminin. Son emblème est une robe corolle serrée à la taille, avec une jupe bouffante...
http://www.lexpress.fr/mag/tendances/dossier/beaute/dossier....

******
supporting info regarding "ample" / full

umbrella skirt - a ***full skirt with many gores that flare gradually from the waist to the hem.***
http://www.infoplease.com/ipd/A0707720.html

"Bouffant" - A dress having a snug-fitting bodice and a full, bell-shaped ***pleated or ruffled skirt.***
http://www.pettipond.com/datd.htm

VintageSewing.info 1942-Modern Pattern Design by Harriet Pepin
Circular Full Skirts [note that there are neither gathers nor pleats at the waist]
The true circular skirt—cut on the basis of a circle—is not becoming to some women as it will necessarily increase the appearance of the wearer's hip measurement. For that reason, it is not found in average day-time dresses but is found more frequently in housecoats or evening gowns. It is the basis for many skating skirts as it is particularly flattering when the figure is in motion and is flattering to the exposed thighs in motion. ****Bouffant evening gowns of net, chiffon or tulle may be made of several circles.****

Fitted Full Pleated Skirts [another pleated, full skirt]
The shaped pleated skirt which is made from several straight lengths of fabric is usually sent to a pleating company for steam pleating. The fabric should be planned and seamed except for the last seam so that it will reach the pleater flat. The hem should be previously basted into position also.
http://www.vintagesewing.info/1940s/42-mpd/mpd-08.html

Selected response from:

Claire Chapman
Local time: 06:33
Grading comment
Merci
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2jupe ample ?
mchd
5Robe de bal avec une jupe bouffante
Claire Chapman
3 -1jupe froncée (robe du soir avec jupe froncée)
RHELLER


  

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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
full skirt or full ballgown
jupe ample ?


Explanation:
plutôt que "bouffante"

mchd
France
Local time: 12:33
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 52

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Claire Chapman
6 hrs
agree  emiledgar
20 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
full skirt or full ballgown
jupe froncée (robe du soir avec jupe froncée)


Explanation:
jupe froncée. jupe longue. jupe plissée. jupe portefeuille. jupe à lés ... jupe droite. jupe froncée. mini-jupe. jupe-culotte. ¯. jupe portefeuille ...
www.morim.com/vocavetements.pdf

a full skirt is not necessarily long but is gathered at the waist ...
forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=29254

M168 1 robe en lainage noir drapé, griffée DIOR PATRON ORIGINAL, 1950 ... 1 jupe en coton crème froncé en son centre, Saint Laurent Rive Gauche, taille ...
www.artcover.com/base/6/DOC_22255117631112877151150.pdf

cugnot.cnam.fr:8000/SEARCH/BASIS/COLLEC/INTERNET/ OBJET/SDW?W%3DAUT++PH+WORDS+'10'%26M%3D251%26R%3DY
262 Photographie : Paquin : robe du soir sans manches, décolleté rond, jupe ample et froncée, tissu rose...
Inv. 16711

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Note added at 4 days (2005-12-16 16:01:50 GMT)
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the link Claire has provided is not from the "sewing"world. Specialists NEVER confuse a pleated skirt with a full skirt. The latter has gathers.

Ball gown styling features the popular off-the-shoulder bodice, with a snugly fitted natural waistline, flowing into a lavishly gathered, full, and flowing skirt.
http://www.ourmarriage.com/html/wedding_gown_silhouettes_and...

http://www.headcoverings.com/skirts/customskirts.htm

RHELLER
United States
Local time: 04:33
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 60

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Claire Chapman: I thought that the question had been answered. When I went to get the references for “ample”/full, I came across the info on bouffant/e and realized it was what the asker was looking for. *5b http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=ful...
5 hrs
  -> hi Claire - you may not agree but there are many (see ref above) who consider full and gathered equivalent- how would you make a full skirt? without gathers?//just curious - why did it take 4 days to figure that one out?
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4 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
full skirt or full ballgown
Robe de bal avec une jupe bouffante


Explanation:
Robe du soir en taffetas à la jupe bouffante
http://www.rdl.com.lb/2004/q2/3949/mod.html

Le retour de l'opulence se présente dans de longues robes de bal qui rappellent l'époque où les tenues de soirée étaient chaque jour de mise. Selon Mme Helegda, c'est **la jupe bouffante** à la cheville portée avec un haut ajusté qui l'emporte en ce moment.»
The return to opulence is seen in floor-length ball gowns that reminisce of a time when eveningwear was the order of the day. According to Ms. Helegda, the style of the moment is a fitted top with a **full billowy skirt** that brushes the floor.
http://www.sears.ca/press.nsf/dd6e0cddc9dff95685256587007d9c...

Soudain, une jupe bouffante Chanel l'appelle : la découpe d'un volant rose ne semble pas suivre le tracé prévu. En fait, pas de problème...
http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=271295

En 1947, à Paris, Christian Dior révolutionne la mode en créant le new-look, un style ultraféminin. Son emblème est une robe corolle serrée à la taille, avec une jupe bouffante...
http://www.lexpress.fr/mag/tendances/dossier/beaute/dossier....

******
supporting info regarding "ample" / full

umbrella skirt - a ***full skirt with many gores that flare gradually from the waist to the hem.***
http://www.infoplease.com/ipd/A0707720.html

"Bouffant" - A dress having a snug-fitting bodice and a full, bell-shaped ***pleated or ruffled skirt.***
http://www.pettipond.com/datd.htm

VintageSewing.info 1942-Modern Pattern Design by Harriet Pepin
Circular Full Skirts [note that there are neither gathers nor pleats at the waist]
The true circular skirt—cut on the basis of a circle—is not becoming to some women as it will necessarily increase the appearance of the wearer's hip measurement. For that reason, it is not found in average day-time dresses but is found more frequently in housecoats or evening gowns. It is the basis for many skating skirts as it is particularly flattering when the figure is in motion and is flattering to the exposed thighs in motion. ****Bouffant evening gowns of net, chiffon or tulle may be made of several circles.****

Fitted Full Pleated Skirts [another pleated, full skirt]
The shaped pleated skirt which is made from several straight lengths of fabric is usually sent to a pleating company for steam pleating. The fabric should be planned and seamed except for the last seam so that it will reach the pleater flat. The hem should be previously basted into position also.
http://www.vintagesewing.info/1940s/42-mpd/mpd-08.html



Claire Chapman
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